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UberChimerism Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
How goes Chapter Two? :)
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1st-Hashirama-Senju Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Hi, it's going slow. I had the outline going but some things have slowed me down a bit, and things in life happened. Was feeling unwell yesterday but feeling better.

Sorry about not getting chapter 2 done as I said before that I was going to. :( Feel bad about that...though I won't be too harsh on myself, we can't control what happens in life all the time.

I have several questions I want to ask and some things I tried to do to sort out the Ninja Academy stuff since canon didn't go deep into stuff about Ninja Academy enough, and I want to do that. And we know Kishi is not the best at math, but I can't really talk much on that because I am not the best at math either. :) . At least there's stuff that can be used online...onto the stuff I want to show to make sure they add up and make sense and questions-
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I am starting the chapter the day Hanabi Hyūga was born. Since it's five years after Minato's attack on Leaf and Mount Oinari, if one considers the fact she was 7 years old 12 years after the attack, Neji would be around six and Hinata would be around 5 right?

And when Neji entered the academy, I think Hanabi would be about 3 years old, and she'd be about 4 when Hinata and Sasuke entered the academy, right?

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I took a look at the academy graduation ages of several notable characters from the Hidden Leaf in canon-

I am also going to use the “students go to academy for three years before graduating” thing I think that is anime only but want to use it since I think it makes sense that it doesn't go on too long. As for how the years will work-

First year-  they will be taught primarily reading, writing, mathematics, science, geography, etc. These lessons start off normal, then they advance into a ninja-context. These are learned to facilitate later instruction in tactics and strategy. They also learn about but don't do any “hands on work” related to the shinobi rules, how to strengthen their minds and bodies, and receive special lectures from veteran shinobi towards the end of the first year. They are also taught how to safely handle ninja weapons and tools and the basics of trap-setting. They are also taught about chakra, how to use it, hand seals, ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. However, just the basics and towards the end of the year to prepare them for Second Year. They also inform about kunoichi classes for the girls.

At the end of the first year, a test is given to be sure they're ready for Second Year. All pass. A week is given in which everything they have learned is summarized, to make sure no one has any questions. Those who do and those who feel behind in knowledge in that area can stay after class and learn.

Second year- now things go much deeper into the “ninja stuff”. Girls start taking the kunoichi classes. Students actually start using ninjutsu and taijutsu. While learning about Genjutsu and how to detect and dispel it. They also learn more about tactics and strategy, shinobi rules, use ninja weapons and tools, trap-setting, and other ninja stuff. They also do Traditional Shinobi Sparring as a training method.

Third year- basically a continuation of the second year, which wraps up with the graduation test.

Now onto the academy graduation ages of the characters listed-

Shizune- 9

Dan Katō- 10

Asuma Sarutobi- 9

Kurenai Yūhi- 9

Might Guy- 7

Kakashi Hatake- 5

Ibiki Morino- 10

Rin Nohara- 9

Obito Uchiha- 9

Orochimaru- 6

Jiraiya- 6

Tsunade- 6

Minato Namikaze- 10

Neji Hyūga- 12

Hinata Hyūga-12

Naruto Uzumaki- 12 (regarding Naruto main series canon- however, since he failed three times, and the academy goes on for three years before graduation normally, Naruto would have had to enter at around age 5/6 depending on several factors. Makes sense, though missed chances for Team Guy knowing of Naruto happened as a result. Though its possible either Team Guy did not have Iruka, which is most likely, or Iruka didn't teach them every time. Or something else. As for why he entered so young, maybe The Third Hokage Hiruzen Sarutobi feared Naruto might go to the Dark Side from peoples' treatment so he thought sending him to the academy and gaining friends might benefit him. Instead...he continued being a troublemaker!)

Itachi Uchiha- 7, graduated after a single year

Based on the ages, as of the current Konoha 12 generation, it seems age 9 is when they enter if they go for three years. This may be due to it being peace time.

It seems some special cases occurred where students go for less than three years. For example, Itachi Uchiha, who was just so good that he was allowed to graduate, had used Shadow Clones and that's such an advanced technique...

Another special case was Kakashi Hatake. Most likely, Sakumo must have home schooled him since he was so good, a genius. And when he entered the academy at age 4, most likely in the middle of world wars as the Second Ninja World War must have tormented the villages with a shortage of war potential in the middle years, leading to crumbling borders and the third ninja world war, that such young ages were permitted for those that good. He graduated after a single year due to his skill most likely, knowing a B-rank technique helps.

Another fact that supports the above is Might Guy's academy graduation being at 7, so he most likely entered at age 4.

Obito and Rin graduated at age 9. Meaning if three years is how long they went, they entered at age 6.  S

Minato Namikaze graduated at age 10, meaning he likely entered at age 7.

Ibiki Morino graduated at age 10, meaning he likely entered at age 7.

Kurenai Yūhi and Asuma Sarutobi graduated at age 9, meaning they entered at age 6.

Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru graduated at age 6. It is possible since it was likely soon after the First Ninja World War that the ages were so young due to them entering at 5, that most of the teaching was left to the team sensei to boost the Leaf's numbers quicker.

Dan Katō graduated at age 10, meaning he entered likely at age 7.

Shizune graduated at age 9, meaning she entered at age 6.

From what we can see, I would guess graduation ages and amount of years in the academy vary. I would guess during times of extreme stress on the village's ninja numbers, and wartime. I would think after First Year at the academy, the team's sensei teaches the rest, based on the way I set up what happens during the three years. And I would guess the academy graduation age might be lower as a result. Such as the Sannin, I imagine it was before or after a war...

What is your reasoning for the academy graduation ages being different? And how I set up how many years they go to academy and what it consists of for each year? Does my reasoning seem sound?

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As for academy teachers-

Hinata's and Sasuke's academy teacher is Iruka Umino, like in canon. :)

Neji's, Rock Lee's, and Tenten's academy instructor was Daikoku Funeno with Shinko as an instructor-in-training. Daikoku Funeno is an academy instructor, he taught Itachi Uchiha's class.

Suzume will be Hinata's, Ino's, and Sakura's Kunoichi class instructor. Since they were in the same normal class, it would be reasonable to assume Hinata would be in the same kunoichi class as well.

Regarding the numbers of teams- what happens with team numbers is that after so many years, eventually a team all becomes Chūnin, and their number ends up not being used anymore and the team goes by the given name of their sensei. Sometimes by the surname like Team Guy. Or by which of the three is the leader of the team. The reason I guessed this was because in non-canon Naruto material, Team Guy has been called Team 3. And I figured that the number 3 was not in use at the time, that the team that had the number previously have become all Chūnin. Since if the number was never used again, the team numbers would be very high after 80 years...

I know its a bit long, but since I am unsure if everything makes sense, I thought I'd show what I have thought up for that stuff. :)
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UberChimerism Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Writer
Your Academy reasoning sounds good ^^
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alptraumsongs Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Student Digital Artist
thanks for the fav(^ω^)
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1st-Hashirama-Senju Featured By Owner 1 day ago
You are welcome! :)
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THANKS FOR FAVE!Llama Emoji-37 (Teehee) [V2] 
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1st-Hashirama-Senju Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2016
You are welcome. :)
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thank you for the support!
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1st-Hashirama-Senju Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016
You are welcome! :)
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